18 August 2016 | 14 Comments
I was the featured guest on a podcast on Sunday, and it completely redefined the way I view podcast appearances, both as a guest and a listener.
Here’s some context from those two perspectives:
- I’ve had the honor of appearing as guest on many different podcasts. When I’m a guest, usually the hosts ask me a bunch of fun questions about my games, company, and Kickstarter. I appreciate the questions and enjoy answering them, but I inevitably feel like too much attention is focused on me, so I try to ask questions to the hosts so it can be more of a conversation than an interview.
- I listen to a number of podcasts, most of them gaming-related. Whenever I listen to an episode with a guest, I enjoy hearing the guest share the story and perspective about their work, though sometimes I wonder if they love stuff other than their own creation. I wonder if they share my passion for gaming, not just their games.
Get Up on This completely flips the formula. It’s hosted by Jensen Karp and Matthew Robinson, two guys who are pretty well connected to the entertainment industry. I was a little daunted by their guest list so far, as it includes actual celebrities (unlike me).
I listened to one episode before my guest appearance. It started out like any other guest-driven podcast: The guest shows up, answers a few questions about himself and his company, light banter, etc.
Then everything changes.
Instead of talking about the guest, Jensen, Matt, and the guest take turns talking about 2 things they’re really excited about right now. Books, movies, TV shows, apps, music, games…any form of entertainment. They share things they love with the audience–things created by other people.
As I listened to that part of the episode, I had a huge smile on my face. I loved how selfless and generous the conversation was. How non-self-serving it was. It’s just a few people sharing things they love with thousands of listeners. It opened a door for me to relate to the guest and the hosts in a genuine way.
Before my appearance, I prepared a list of things I love in each of those categories, and I ended up sharing one game (Captain Sonar) and one app (Sleep Talk), as I thought they’d make good conversation topics. Matt and Jensen also always discussed something they were late to “get up on,” and I chose Deadwood for that part.
I’m compelled to write about this experience mostly because it’s a good reminder to me of the power of outward-focused positivity. People are more drawn to you if you don’t make everything about yourself. They’re more attracted to you as a creator if they see that you’re passionate about your entire industry, not just your company or your project.
What are you drawn to when you listen to guests on podcast?